What the founding fathers said about guns and gun control

10 Nov

Considering the Obama administrations possible ban of assault rifles I thought I’d show some quotes:

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun.”
– Patrick Henry

Militias, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves and include all men capable of bearing arms.”
– Trench Coxe

“What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty…. Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins.”
– George Mason

“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.”
– Richard Henry Lee

Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not.”
– Thomas Jefferson

“The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.”
– Alexander Hamilton

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.”
– Thomas Jefferson

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined or determined to commit crimes. Such laws only make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assassins; they serve to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.”
-Thomas Jefferson

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people’s liberty teeth and keystone… the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable… more than
99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes,we need them every hour.”
– George Washington

Not to mention the term ‘assault rifle’ when applied to civilian semi-automatic rifles is shamefully ignorant, inaccurate and misleading:

An assault rifle is a selective fire rifle or carbine firing ammunition with muzzle energies intermediate between those typical of pistol and high-powered rifle ammunition. Assault rifles are the standard small arms in most modern armies, having largely replaced or supplemented larger, more powerful battle rifles, such as the World War II-era M1 Garand and SVT-40. Examples of assault rifles include the AK-47, the M16 rifle, and the Steyr AUG.

Semi-automatic rifles, though confusingly classified in the USA as assault weapons by the now defunct 1994 Assault Weapons Ban, are not assault rifles as they are not selective fire. Belt-fed weapons or rifles with fixed magazines also do not meet the definition of an assault rifle.

It’s just incredibly ignorant and idiotic. How can a man so intelligent in so many other things be so woefully stupid when it comes to firearms? The great problem in our nation is handgun crime, not assault rifle crime. It boggles my mind.


12 Responses to “What the founding fathers said about guns and gun control”

  1. atlasimpure November 10, 2008 at 6:05 pm #

    Obama hasn’t said a thing about banning assualt weapons. Biden’s on the record as for a ban but so far Obama has said A.The overturning of the DC gun ban was a good ruling by the Supreme Court and B.”I won’t take your guns away, I’m a believer in reasonable gun laws.”

    • bboyneko November 10, 2008 at 6:08 pm #

      Are you serious?? Hes been quoted numerous times as stating he wishes to make the federal assault rifle ban previously passed by clinton permenant, its on his own website:
      “Obama called for better enforcement of existing gun laws, tighter background checks on gun buyers and for making an expired assault weapon ban permanent.”
      “As president, Barack Obama would …support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets.”

      • atlasimpure November 10, 2008 at 6:30 pm #

        Huh…I was going off what I’d gleaned from speeches and the like.
        I’m not entirely sure I disagree with him. A banana clip in my AR-15 and some armor-piercing bullets are a smidge excessive.

      • bboyneko November 10, 2008 at 6:33 pm #

        his AWB would not affect your bullets or clip, only the ar-15 itself.

      • atlasimpure November 10, 2008 at 6:37 pm #

        Well that’s just retarded.

      • bboyneko November 10, 2008 at 6:46 pm #

        THAT’S exactly my point lol. But i kind of doubt Obama will pursue this at all, he doesn’t want to lose reluctant republican votes he gained for next time.

      • atlasimpure November 10, 2008 at 7:46 pm #

        Mostly, I think he’ll have other priorities.
        Which is why the current run on gun shops is kind of amusing.

      • bboyneko November 10, 2008 at 7:58 pm #

        hey, good for the gun shops and ar-15 manufacturers.

  2. lordalfredhenry November 10, 2008 at 7:09 pm #

    I totally agree with you.

  3. son_of_ottie November 10, 2008 at 9:45 pm #

    I’m surprised by the point of most of these quotes being about protecting one’s self from the government! No wonder the hills are packed with looneys!
    But I do agree with the one about only criminals having guns.
    I think those who want to have them should.

    • bboyneko November 10, 2008 at 10:03 pm #

      yeah, the whole point of 2nd amendment was system of checks and balances, this was their check against a government army. The citizens will always outnumber the standing army, therefore keeping them in check.
      Thats why the argument “why do you need [insert powerful gun here] to hunt?”. The answer is we don’t we need it to shoot PEOPLE.

      • son_of_ottie November 11, 2008 at 2:09 pm #

        LOL! If the NRA said that though…Oh My!

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