Why do people believe religion = moral?

23 Sep

Why do you need to believe in all powerful super being for morals? Why cant you teach kids ‘hey, don’t kill innocent people..dont steal from others..dont lie and manipulate people for your gain, don’t cheat on your wife/gf” without god?

Religion may teach morals, but does so with an unhealthy (in my opinion) use of guilt tactics. The ‘when you masturbate baby Jesus cries’ type teachings.

I feel, an atheist is MORE moral than a Christian. Lets take a Christian and an athiest..both are good people, in action.

However, the atheist has no afterlife beleifs..no fear of punishment from god for doing wrong. When no one is looking, he doesn’t steal money from the cash register because he feels it is wrong. His motives are pure.

He does good even when no one is looking even though he does not believe god will reward him with heaven. He does good for the sake of doing good.

The Christian on the other hand, has hell /fear of punishment from god. So anytime he does good, his motives aren’t as pure. He doesn’t want to be punished by god. Or he wants the reward..eternal life in heaven. Either way..his motives are suspect considering his belief in reward / punishment.

The truly moral person is the person who does right even when all forms of enforcement for transgressing the law /moral code are not present.

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7 Responses to “Why do people believe religion = moral?”

  1. lessordinary September 23, 2004 at 11:21 am #

    Thank you for putting that out there. You said it so much better than I could.

  2. meanjunglist September 23, 2004 at 12:27 pm #

    Your posts are some of my favorites just because I enjoy the depth to which you think and write.
    In response to this particular post, I couldn’t agree more.

    • bboyneko September 23, 2004 at 1:10 pm #

      thank you! i spell bad tho cus i write on the fly and am too lazy to spell check, even tho I use semagic lol

  3. majnuna September 23, 2004 at 12:57 pm #

    Now you know i’m not Christian, and while i do relatively agree with this…you have to think that this can’t always be true. I’m sure atheists, for example, have driver’s liscences…that would be to conform to law. All I’m saying is that religious or not everyone has the law as God whether they like it or not. Just saying that every action can’t be pure. Avoiding jail to me is avoiding hell.

    • bboyneko September 23, 2004 at 1:07 pm #

      I DID say:
      “The truly moral person is the person who does right even when all formsof enforcement for transgressing the law /moral code are not present.
      A christian, by definition, can never remove the hell/heaven thing, even if all the police on earth died and there was no government anymore..the athiest on the other hand, can be in situations hwere there is no possibility of getting punished or rewarded for a good or bad action they do.
      Therefore, in such a situation the athiest moral actions are 100% pure..while the christian, even if the police all died, would always have the heaven hell thing to worry about.

      • majnuna September 25, 2004 at 7:00 am #

        I’m not arguing with ya loco…it’s nice to know a person who is well informed and can think on top of that. Don’t share too much of your knowledge though – I’d hate to see the world if all the morons and idiots started to think too.

  4. flutterflywild September 23, 2004 at 11:36 pm #

    i totally agree with everything you said. i had an argument with someone over this a couple of months ago. i wish i had said this!

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